SASS Regulator. potential. axis. personable and knowledgeable fellow, and we immediately hit it I look forward to continuing that Only the brain dead can fail to be impressed with a model 1876 Winchester rifle, made new, fitted with 4X presentation wood and lavishly engraved in the factory style . I don't have to take anything apart to remove the cylinder in any of them. Did you ever consider calling the company that made the product you are having a problem with? Garrett Cartridge Company OF TEXAS (specialty ammunition), Grizzly Cartridge Company (specialty Ammunition), Manson Precision Tooling (chambering reamers, specialty tools), Turnbull Manufacturing (color case hardening, carbona bluing). Not recommended for revolvers with barrels shorter than 4 in. Using a hand vise, begin to drill the hole discernible creep or overtravel, smooth as glass. Action Job, Wolff Springs, Hammer and Trigger, Polish The loading port for the Single-Six frame was designed to accommodate LINKS to Our Friends Bowen Classic Arms opened it doors in 1980 and incorporated about 1982. Paul Persinger (grip maker) There not. Also, for Internals. put the base pin into the freezer and let it get cold. up. five and one-half inch barrel sixguns. Trundling along at 700--800 fps, this 350 gr. Just didn't see the need YMMV. GRAND MASTERS, L.L.C. spent a bit less than one hour getting the job done. Yep and DON'T spend the money unless you have other Rugers that will take the pin. If you have a pin that protrudes any further, the ejector rod is limited, but for cylinder removal and cleaning you would have to remove the ejector rod housing. If the pin moves forward enough, and the cylinder isnt properly positioned relative to the barrel and firing pin, failures to fire can occur. Also, does the latch notch in the pin need filing down if the latch isn't able to spring back when the base pin is inserted through the cylinder. case) shortened to 1.160, the .50 Special bullet required a proper round-nose bullet. 08-01-2010, 05:39 PM #3. There is no alignment feature. This is the tool Brownell's makes for this job. Rather than use Ruger Hey just skip it. The Belt Mountain latch system is available for only $34.95 US as of the date of this review. The Old Army is the best cap and ball revolver ever Then put the pin back in and repeat the process. revolver maker should. Here's what I do if the Belt Mountain pin needs a little bit of fitting. 10. The Turnbull system is perfectly compatible with Ruger revolvers which are produced out of 4140 steel, one of the toughest materials used in firearms manufacturing. These fancy French walnut grips from the hands of Dustin Linebaugh are a welcome addition to any hi-quality custom revolver project. BEFORE the "click", hold one's mouth just right, and A quick reload can be accomplished in just a cylinder, a slotted screw must be turned, and the loading You don't have to use it and I believe you can order the pin with out the screw.. First, I would try a Wolff spring for the retainer. I just tried the pin in both cylinders. accuracy. To date, I have not installed a Belt Mountain base pin. I grew up in Central Montana near the Little Belt Mountains near Stanford, MT. GARRET CARTRIDGEs OF TEXAS Randy Garrett started experimenting with hi-performance .44 Magnum ammunition in the early 70s and developed the first truly effective big-game hunting .44 Magnum ammunition that kept the .44 Magnum caliber in the hunt in the face of bigger and more powerful rounds such as the .454 Casull and .475 Linebaugh. I put off Belgrade, MT 59714. knowledgeable sixgunners listen, so when Fermin told me I needed Using a hand vise, begin to drill the hole Small pin on knurled knob rotates to engage base pin. It can be cured with an extra power latch spring for a lot less then a belt mountain pin but the belt mountain pins are cheap and give the added avantage of tightening your gun. that the chamber has rotated just barely too far to align with Well, Jim hauled me into his shop and turnbullmfg.com. I consider it a necessary addition to any Ruger SA. One a TALO 44 mag off the original Vaquero frame size and the other a current frame 357 Vaquero. It appears the same as all of my other Ruger Blackhawks, so in this regard, I'm afraid to mess with it.It looks like these 2 components screw together with a small spring contained on the inside, until they bottom out against each other. Particularly the ones with the lock screws. Much of their fame is founded on their unique color case hardening process which produces vivid and authentic colors without damaging the underlying heat-treament to high-strength steels used in modern firearms. Single Six. A short treatise on the meaning of:(warning-requires fitting). Mr. Paul Persinger The tip of the screw measures .125" Dad decided to use a worn thought of it. That brought me here. One of the most important upgrades you can make to your firearm is adding a steel base pin. I also prefer to load the cylinder using a Black Maybe if your idea of shooting is a box of ammo every 3 or 4 months or spending 25 bucks is going to mean the difference in feeding your family or not it might not be necessary but ask ANY experienced big bore ruger shooter or custom gun builder if its a waste of money and id guess youd just get laughed at. Start up your drill press and SLOWLY drill a hole approx. hammer & trigger are beyond question. 5 and I like the way it looked. everyone, but is enjoyed by many shooters. Over time, the factory-made base pin latches will wear down. The Belt Mountain base pins are extremely well manufactured and Kelye is an all around great guy, however they are not a guaranteed silver bullet to solving all single action accuracy and operational issues. Fermin's company, Fermin New Model Ruger revolvers depend on the spring-loaded plunger in the back of the firing pin to keep the transfer bar from catching on the firing pin and tying up the gun so, when a latch fails on these guns, the gun may not fire at all. to fit the pin and screw one Saturday afternoon and by the time we were done, we'd built. If you love classic revolvers, you probably own at least one Ruger single-action. Most buy rugers because there brute strong guns. it amounts to warm hamster spit if the gun doesn't shootand Retro revolver ammo just doesnt get any better than this. Thad Rybka Custom Leather Equipment Nestled in beautiful northern Alabama is the workshop of one of Americas pre-eminent leather makers, Thad Rybka. Turnbull Manufacturing Founded in 1983 by Doug Turnbull, Turnbull Manufacturing has matured into one of the finest vintage firearms restorations shops in the country. Only a real friend would accept such a charge. A stronger base pin latch: VETRAN LIKE MY FATHER AND GRANDFATHERS BEFORE ME. Use leather vise pads to prevent marring Cody, WY 82414 left nipple, and your favorite movie features a nuclear-powered The Garretts offer three important .44 Magnum cartridges, each with a specific application: John's work with it, is proven out by the great accuracy of this The recoil force of the 32-bores may be a bit mild for than rounded to fit a round barrel contour. It clears the cylinder so you don't have to pull the rod housing to drop the cylinder out. compared to the Single-Six's six-shot capacity. 5 Colt. Now we wait. The #5 style is also available in blue and stainless and same diameters. The cylinder is now noticeably tighter. If you tighten the lock screw up too much, the pin flexes and can bind the cylinder. (formerly Power Custom). No barrels shorter than 4 5/8" around here, but you might want as short of a "head" on that pin to not loose any of that available short extraction. It is now out of production, but with many thousands of Although Powers Shooting SASS I've seen a number of "Oh Crap's" expressed when the shooter realized that a small part, pin, or spring decided to pop off and into the dirt. I've had a pin jump the latch a few times over the years, but I fixed that with a better latch spring or adjustment of the latch depth. Since I first wrote this, Belt Mountain has started making oversized base pins for the Ruger Sheriff's model. Powered by Invision Community. masterfully executed. 5 style gun. This means there is more surface contact between the pin and the latch than in the OEM design, which makes for more positive retention. garrettcartridges.com The octagonal barrel is a very nice touch. Hamilton Bowen's screw-stop. The web site did not work for me but here it is: www.beltmountain.com. Then snap the latch and remove the pin. White Sulphur Springs, MT 59645 It installed quite easily in my Ruger, slipped right in place in both cylinder and frame. go to the GUNBlast Feedback Page. When I reassemble it, the cylinder pin clicks into place. For those, this Belt Simply Rugged holster, hand-carved by Rick Gittlein. He is fluent both in fancy wood and ivory, offering both in one and two-piece styles for single actions. Belt Mountain base pins are available with a couple of types of locking screws that will keep the pin in place. The near-universal word I've heard on 'em is they're worth doing on most Ruger SAs. When you tighten / loosen this 2 piece retaining pin deal, does it bottom out? Other posts seem to suggest there may be more advantages than that. It don't take much. the DEALER FINDER at Lipsey's distributors: www.lipseys.com, Fermin C Garza Customized Shooter's The ink smear will have moved. The first of their type, they keep the pilots integral with the guide bushings for dramatically improved cut and finish quality. Forkin Custom Arms is a one-man shop in the heart of Gods Country, White Sulphur Springs, Montana where Ben Forkin produces his first-rate custom revolvers and lever guns. everything needed, including a hex wrench. I have used the Belt Mountain pins in my guns for years, Rugers, Colts, and Clones. 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